Monica Packer is passionate about teaching practical transformation. As a podcaster, growth coach, and podcast educator, she guides women to find sustainable growth by adopting progress over perfection. Monica is a former middle school teacher, a forever Oprah and Harry Potter fangirl, a perpetual cookie dough maker, and a beginning swimmer. She's a mama of four living in the Bay Area, CA. We recorded this interview before COVID-19 reared its ugly head.  But there has never been a better time to learn how to better manage and even overcome perfectionism.  We are all working so hard right now to keep the world spinning and Monica and I want to give you a ton of permission to just keep taking one imperfect step after another.  Listen in to hear Monica share: The root of perfectionism and how it shows up specifically for moms How a lack of goal setting and action taking is also a form of perfectionism The truth about overachieving and underachieving perfectionists Her own experience with perfectionism that led her through eating disorders and suicidal ideation How leaning into the opposite side of perfectionism allows her to disconnect her worth from her achievements How to use imperfect action as exposure therapy to recover from perfectionism How you can prioritize progress over perfection How to model imperfect action to high achiever/perfectionist kids Links Mentioned: Join our 4 Week Shameless Mom Con Collective Connect with Monica: About Progress Monica on Instagram: @aboutprogress About Progress Podcast Thank you to our sponsors: Hylands: For more information about Hylands, visit: https://www.hylands.com/products/hylands-earache-drops