You have to suffer for your art. If you truly care about something, you'd do it for free. Great artists aren't recognized in their lifetimes. We've all heard these ideas, and internalized them to some extent. Duane Jones fights back against them with his clothing and lifestyle brand, Art Pays Me, reminding everyone that what you do, and who you are, has value. It takes courage to turn creativity into a business, and he talks with Kyle Carpenter about why the world will be a better place if more people can get paid for their art. It's a great and illuminating talk about how to change your mindset towards being the kind of artist who gets paid. Tune in for the REAL difference between art and craft (and believe us - it's the best definition you've ever heard).  Today's links:  https://artpaysme.com https://twitter.com/artpaysme https://www.instagram.com/artpaysme/ Theme song by topmen.bandcamp.com! Want to support the show? Order a custom infographic from Easel.ly! Use this link (https://www.easel.ly/infographicdesign/) for a great price!  Think you'd be a great fit for the show? Let me know at twitter.com/KCarCFH Leave us a review on Apple Podcasts or recommend us to a friend. It helps immensely.