Jon talks with Dave Mangot, who helps companies get good at delivering software as the principal at Mangoteque. An early DevOps veteran, who was not content to work only with unicorns, Dave has tackled some of the major cultural and structural impediments to Dev and Ops collaboration at companies such as Salesforce, Barracuda, SolarWinds, and Cable & Wireless. Between those and his best-selling video course, Mastering DevOps, he’s improved the lives of thousands of IT professionals around the world. Connect with Jon Dwoskin: Twitter: @jdwoskin Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.dwoskin Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thejondwoskinexperience/ Website: https://jondwoskin.com/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jondwoskin/ Email: jon@jondwoskin.com Get Jon’s Book: The Think Big Movement: Grow your business big. Very Big!   Connect with Dave Mangot: Website: www.mangoteque.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/davemangot LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dmangot/