This is the final episode in the five part series with Kathryn. Kathryn shares how implementing some of her newly learned skills has been going.  Kathryn describes how these tricky conversations with her 17 year old daughter Bridgette have felt both satisfying and at times frustrating and where she is still feeling stuck.  Through role playing we take an indepth look at two examples. Leslie gives Kathryn some tips on how to communicate well, particularly when the topic of conversations is sensitive and might bring up some intense emotions.  These strategies for de-escalating polarizing conversations are key for effective communication.  An additional note:  Leslie is qualified to share parenting knowledge and also appears to be challenged by her counting skills.  Listen for when she confidently proclaims that “tell me more” is a two-word phrase.For a full transcript of this episode and more information about the host visit  https://lesliecohenrubury.com/podcasts/. You can also follow Leslie’s work on Facebook and Instagram. Join the conversation with your own questions and parenting experiences on Is My Child A Monster? Parenting CommunityTime stamps: 11:00 Role playing difficult conversation with daughter about drugs12:57 Leslie’s definition of a responsible child16:19 Emotion mind vs wise mind in difficult conversations18:24 Leslie describes new ways to consider a “time out” in a conversation21:05 The importance of timing in difficult conversationsLeslie-ism:  It's hard to be effective when you’re in Emotion Mind.  Pauses can be helpful..Show Note Links:A video that demonstrates how validation/active listen can de-escalate conflicts    Everybody Loves Raymond Uses Active Listening  A handout  on how to de-escalate a conversation   10 Tips for Difficult Conversations  "Setting up anxious kids for long term success" is the title of the episode where Leslie Cohen-Rubury is a guest on Well Hello Anxiety  with Dr Jodi Richardson Credits: Is My Child a Monster? is produced by Alletta Cooper, Dale Rubury, and LeslieCohen-Rubury. Theme music is by L-Ray Music. Public relations is handled by Tink Media. Graphics and Website Design by Brien O’Reilly. Transcriptions by Eric Rubury. A special thanks to everyone who contributes their wisdom and support to make this possible.