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Episode 007 - Professor Julian Marchesi – microbiome analysis, probiotics, microbial therapeutics, the microbiome in cancer

Episode 007 - Professor Julian Marchesi – microbiome analysis, probiotics, microbial therapeutics, the microbiome in cancer

FromInside Matters


Episode 007 - Professor Julian Marchesi – microbiome analysis, probiotics, microbial therapeutics, the microbiome in cancer

FromInside Matters

ratings:
Length:
97 minutes
Released:
Nov 17, 2022
Format:
Podcast episode

Description

This was a wide-ranging and fun conversation that covered a lot of ground. We could have kept going for a lot longer. 
Professor Marchesi is an expert on the application of next-generation sequencing technology and novel analytical methods to study microbial ecologies.
Our understanding of the microbiome and the genomic potential of the microorganisms within the microbiome has vastly increased due improvements to DNA sequencing technology and associated reductions in the cost of sequencing a genome. 
DNA sequencing has allowed us to create inventories of microbiomes based on the source of the sample collected: stool, sputum etc. These inventories allow us to understand datasets generated from research studies. However, Professor Marchesi describes there being microbial ‘dark matter’ within the microbiome, in which dark matter is defined as a DNA sequence that has never been definitively linked to a strain of bacteria that has been cultured in a pure culture setting and phenotypically characterised. This is an inherent limitation to our understanding. 
There are a variety of technologies and approaches available to study the microbiome beyond using next-generation sequencing technology. They can be broadly described and categorised as ‘omics’. Each of the Omics describes a different technique e.g proteomics (study of proteins) metabolomics (study of metabolites) etc. Researchers combine these techniques to study microbes and ecosystems, but there is still a lot that we do not know. To exemplify this, Professor Marceshi referenced E.coli, the most well-studied microbe on the planet. Despite all of the research that has been conducted to date to characterise E.coli, only 40% of its genome has been mapped to particular functions. 
Professor Marchesi and colleagues at Imperial College have pioneered the application of intestinal microbiota transfer (IMT) to different diseases, including recurrent C.difficle infection and patients undergoing treatment for blood cancer.
Looking into the future, Professor Marchesi believes that probiotics will be rationally described and selected based on specific microbiome profiles in the intended recipient (s). He also believes that donor screening for IMT will evolve and that robust analysis of the microbiome in patients before and after IMT procedures may reveal clues about the mechanism of action of IMT, which, in turn, may result in the discovery of new drug candidates. 

Some facts from the conversation with Prof Marchesi : 
50% of stool biomass is bacteria. It is for this reason that we alternate between being greater or less than 50% human/microbial.
They're roughly 150 species in the gut of any person and 1000’s different species. 
The microbiome has been shown to have an impact on drug metabolism and safety/tolerability/efficacy.
There are bacteria that can cause uncontrolled growth in plants - there may be parallels between what happens in plants and what happens in human cells.
There are distinct differences between the microbiomes in the small and large intestines, as well as significant differences in immunology. The differences in microbiome profile primarily relate to differences in food sources. 
Microbes can be described as factories that produce chemicals and proteins. We know more about chemicals then proteins such as short-chain fatty acids (an energy source for colonocytes acetate, proportionate, butyrate and valerate. Professor Marchesi describes them as anti-inflammatory, anti-proliferative and anti-carcinogenic - i.e they reduce the risk of cancer and help with your mental health.
Every one bacteria has ten viruses trying to predate it in the gut. Viruses are the most abundant organism on the planet. There are more viruses on the planet than there are stars in the Universe. 

Timecodes:
00:00 Introduction
1:15 Silent retreats and isolation chambers
3:41 Artificial intelligence 
6:10 Julian’s journey into the microbiome 
9:10 Phylogeny and morphology 
12:18 Evolution of DNA
Released:
Nov 17, 2022
Format:
Podcast episode

Titles in the series (45)

The gut health show – conversations with the most forward-thinking minds in health, fitness, science, nutrition and business. In-depth discussions about how our gut microbiome impacts our health, well-being, mood and more. Inside Matters was conceived by microbiome expert Dr James McIlroy as a platform to raise awareness of the importance of the gut microbiome. Our aim is to inspire and educate listeners around the world about the importance of gut health, equipping them with the knowledge they need to transform their lives for the better.