Kate Bee is the founder of The Sober School. Right back from her childhood surrounded by family members who drank, she says that alcohol was the most normalized drug around.When she became an adult, Kate used alcohol to be cool, as well as to help her forget about all the things that she thought were wrong with her.Looking back, she realizes that she'd also used food for comfort and reward... especially sugar. Sugar helped her cope with her feelings and was an end-of-the-day stress buster, she says.And when Kate entered her 20s, she added alcohol to fill those same needs for comfort and stress relief. She'd come home every night and pour herself a glass of wine.Many wines are full of sugar... and Kate recognizes now that she was using alcohol as well as sugar as an emotional crutch.And guess what she ate while she was drinking and when she was hungover?Sugar and junk food!In this episode, Kate and I talk about the close relationship between sugar and alcohol, including how we use them when we have a dependency on them.We also talk about willpower, having fun, our perceptions, social pressure, our beliefs about sugar and/or alcohol, and the freedom of living alcohol free and sugar free.Find Kate Bee's The Sober School here.To get personal guidance, support, and accountability to live your healthier lifestyle and let go of sugar: Join the the After Sugar Club today!To get rid of cravings, especially if you're an intermittent faster, download your 5 tips here.Also check out the Life After Sugar Facebook page, and subscribe to my Instagram account and to the Life After Sugar YouTube channel.To rate and review this podcast: scroll down in your podcast player on your phone and click on the stars. To leave a review, scroll down a little more and click on "Write a Review". Once you’ve finished, select “Send” or “Save” in the top-right corner. If you’ve never left a podcast review before, enter a nickname. Your nickname will be displayed on your review. After selecting a nickname, tap OK. Your review may not be immediately visible, but it should be posted soon. Thank you! - Netta