In this episode, recorded during Black History Month in the UK, Judith Germain speaks to Joan Conway about the contested heritage of St George Church in Beckenham. This church, situated in a majority white area, take a Maverick approach to addressing their history as well as building awareness and tackling racial justice. This church does not restrict their activities to just Black History Month, this is a year long commitment. In this conversation, Joan shares tips on how to make your church more inclusive for everyone and the importance of Black people seeing a representation of Jesus that looks like themselves. Listen to this refreshing conversation of how a church recognises its past, present and future role within their community and beyond. Read more about contested heritage - a time for change here. Judith's websites:  The Maverick Paradox Magazine - themaverickparadox.com Company Website - maverickparadox.co.uk Judith's LinkedIn profile is here, her Twitter profile (MaverickMastery) is here, Facebook here and Instagram here.