Today's interview is with a guest who found that the secret to lasting body transformation is often most discernible in how we relate to our mind and emotions - rather than just within the confines of training & nutritional programming. Drew Manning joins me to discuss his biggest takeaways from "Fit2Fat2Fit" - his journey to gain and then lose 60+ lbs TWICE as motivation to better understand and empathize with his clientele. On the episode, he discusses his own revelations about transformation within his process. Plus... Drew provides a LOT of immediate action items to help any high achiever take their transformation (and life!) to the next level. If you're a coach, trainer, or anyone interested in engaging with your GREATEST potential, this episode is a must-listen. You'll learn: The Surprising Truth about Gaining and Losing 60 lbs twice How to Overcome the Biggest Challenges in Body Transformation The Key to Optimize Every Fitness Program. The #1 Greatest and Under-Utilized Lever that Most Trainers Skip Over. How to Adapt Your Training and Nutrition to Your Lifestyle As You Age. Connect with Drew: https://fit2fat2fit.com https://instagram.com/fit2fat2fit Support our Sponsors: BiOptimizers MassZymes proteolytic enzymes are my top recommended supplement to clientele, the Muscle Intelligence Community, and to anyone looking to upgrade their digestion and overall health. Get MassZymes at  https://masszymes.com/muscle and save 10% with code MUSCLE10