Leisa Perch is an international development consultant with over 20 years of experience providing both technical advice and managerial support to different international development agencies such as UN Women and UNDP. Her experience and expertise spans a number of areas including gender and women’s empowerment programming, gender and sustainable development, environmental management, climate change adaptation, post disaster recovery, sustainable livelihoods and more. Leisa previously set up and led the Rural and Sustainable Development Cluster at the International Policy Centre for Inclusive Growth (IPC-IG) in Brasilia, Brazil and worked with the UNDP Sub-regional Office for Barbados and the Organization of Eastern Caribbean states (OECS). She is also a member of the Gender in Fisheries Team and the Carribean Green Economy Action Learning Group. Leisa speaks to us about the importance of using an intersectional analytical framework, building trust in communities, listening with an open mind, working across the natural and social sciences, acknowledging that we work within ecosystems, avoiding harm and much more. She joins us from Barbados. Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/rethinkingdevelopment)