Lifelong Texan Lance Sleeper joins us for Episode #061. Lance studied journalism in school but always tinkered with computers growing up. After a motorsports PR gig evaporated, Lance found himself the most tech-savvy person at a mortgage company. His career focused on security from that point forward, exposing him to several different industries. We talk about airline IT, the importance of diversity and inclusiveness in security, Texas BBQ, and what it's like to wear the zebra stripes in football games.   Links: https://smile.amazon.com/Verbal-Judo-Updated-Edition-audiobook/dp/B01N9VNCJE/ref=sr_1_1?crid=3O45CEDNKQ1IC&keywords=verbal+judo+book&qid=1639674092&sprefix=verbal+judo%2Caps%2C178&sr=8-1 https://smile.amazon.com/QBQ-Question-Behind-Yourself-Eliminate/dp/B0006IU6IC/ref=sr_1_1?crid=52M3F9OKIQRE&keywords=qbq+the+question+behind+the+question&qid=1639674151&s=audible&sprefix=QbQ%2Caudible%2C178&sr=1-1 https://smile.amazon.com/15-Invaluable-Laws-of-Growth-audiobook/dp/B009KF1JXI/ref=sr_1_4?crid=UQOAG7O3HOGT&keywords=john+maxwell&qid=1639674184&s=audible&sprefix=John+max%2Caudible%2C175&sr=1-4