In this episode, we chat with Joe Gerstandt, keynote speaker, thought leader, advisor, consultant and sage in the world of inclusion. Charlie and Joe discuss how poorly misunderstood inclusion and diversity really are in the workplace and Joe clarifies how companies that "get it" are using it as a true competitive advantage. Saying inclusion is important to us (and we all say it) is one thing; but Joe gives us some tips for measuring and monitoring it so that we know it’s having the intended impact. Get this and more from this month’s episode of the Culture Chat Podcast. Listen to (and/or download) to learn more.