Thank you to this episode's sponsor, TherapyNotes. Get a 2-month free trial of TherapyNotes by going to www.TherapyNotes.com and using the promo code TherapyChat.  Welcome back to Therapy Chat! In today's episode, host Laura Reagan, LCSW-C invites back grief counselor, author and speaker Isabel Stenzel Byrnes, LCSW, MPH to talk more in-depth about death and grief. Isabel is a licensed clinical social worker and bereavement counselor at Mission Hospice & Home Care, where she counsels children, teens and adults who have lost a loved one. She also leads writing through loss groups for those who are grieving, among other support groups. Isabel has experienced significant losses of her own and has lived with serious illness all of her life.   As an author, documentarian, patient advocate and public speaker, Isabel has lectured around the country on topics such as living well with illness, grief and loss, end-of-life issues and organ donation, including a TEDx Stanford talk in 2014.  Resources Isabel's website: http://www.thepoweroftwomovie.com/home/  Adec - https://www.adec.org  Mission Hospice website: http://missionhospice.org  Watch Isabel's TEDx talk, "The Art of Saying Goodbye" here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dkffpibi-Dc   Leave me a message via Speakpipe by going to https://therapychatpodcast.com and clicking on the green Speakpipe button. Thank you for listening to Therapy Chat! Please be sure to go to iTunes and leave a rating and review, subscribe and download episodes. You can also download the Therapy Chat app on iTunes by clicking here. Podcast produced by Pete Bailey - https://petebailey.net/audio