Recruitment has not changed over the last few decades, but company needs certainly have. Gary Davis is the Senior Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion Business Partner at Adobe. During this episode, he joins us to discuss the evolving importance of DE&I, the metrics used to evaluate candidates, and how to determine how people experience your company culture. Tuning in, you’ll hear Gary’s thoughts on the two-way street of recruitment, valuing transparency, and the importance of solving problems specific to Generation Z. We discuss what it truly means to shrink the gaps in equity and inclusion, Gary’s Christmas wishlist for the future of the industry, and more.    Key Points From This Episode:   Introducing Gary Davis, Senior DE&I Business Partner at Adobe.  His motivation to find creative ways to address inequality in the USA.  What his role involves and how he serves all of the communities at Adobe. The process of productizing equitable interviewing.  How recruitment has not evolved over the last fifty years.  Interrogating the metric we use to evaluate candidates for a role. How Gary’s roles have evolved in DE&I and tech.  Measuring how people experience your company culture. Whether or not recruiters should be incentivized around retention.  Why Gary values transparency so highly.  Considering recruitment a two-way street. His favorite thing about diversity and inclusion work.  What it means to creatively shrink the gaps in equity and inclusion. Why it is important to solve problems specific to Gen Z.  Gary’s Christmas wishlist for the future of the industry. Reshaping how we approach DE&I work with the past in mind.    Quotes:   “The throughline for any work that I’ve ever done has been about designing programs and products that create spaces for people from excluded groups; women, people of color, and folks with disabilities.” — Gary Davis [0:03:15]   “One of the interesting things to me about recruiting is that we have not really changed it in the last fifty or so years.” — Gary Davis [0:05:21]   “We don’t have a talent shortage. We have a sourcing issue.” — Gary Davis [0:07:58]   “The coolest thing about diversity and inclusion work is that you are really measured by your ability to influence.” — Gary Davis [0:26:11]   Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode:   Gary L Davis on LinkedIn Adobe The Devil Wears Prada Talk Talent to Me Hired