#425: Jess & Liz talk life, “the sickness,” Dax Shepard, and the Enneagram.  Jess Gaertner is an Enneagram coach and creator of the Enneagram Course bundle. She’s also a food photographer and podcast host with a passion for real food, real connection, and sharing herself – flaws and all. She pours her heart and soul into the weekly podcast she co-hosts, The Modern Mamas Podcast, which is a safe space to share her authentic experience of motherhood, and where expert guests educate and empower women to take charge of their health. When not working, Jess loves to spend time with her husband Tim, two kiddos Bear and Camille, and two large Great Pyrenees rescues. They are her greatest accomplishment!   Enneagram course: https://www.jessgaertner.com/enneagram www.jessgaertner.com  @jess.gaertner  @jessgaertnercreative Modern Mamas Podcast: https://www.modernmamaspodcast.com/   Find Liz on Instagram: @realfoodliz Real Food Liz Eat The Yolks Baby Making and Beyond Athletic Mom Thanks for listening!