Jon and Justin have a bunch of hot topics this week:
Podcast advertising, user tracking, turning away customers?
Basecamp switched their podcast (Rework) to us
Why Marco Arment gave up on his #1 app
$30k in MRR – how does this feel?
Shape Up updates: “Small enough to wing it” 
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Show notes:
The new Joker movie
Brad Pitt's new movie: Ad Astra

Jared Hess' movies
Charlie Kammerer, president of Slate, on the Digiday podcast with Pierre Bienaimé
DHH Tweet
Marco Arment: "It just doesn't feel good"

Justin's blog: How it feels to hit $30k

Shape Up: Small enough to wing it

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