This week Justin chats with Michele Hansen, founder of Geocodio. I got fired up about interviewing customers! 
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"There's so much shame in the tech community."
What are the boundaries for deploying empathy? When, and how, do we deliver critiques?
Podcast: a respectful interview with a flat-earther 

"This book isn't just about deploying empathy to customers, it's also about learning to be more empathetic to your family, friends, coworkers."
31:30 – we start discussing customer interviews
"It was easier for me to learn how to have empathy for customers than it was to have empathy for myself."
42:27 – "how does empathy help businesses attract new customers, build better products?"
46:53 - "Why don't you bring Jon in on those interviews?"
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