In this episode, Dr. Karen interviews Dr. Amelia Hruby about her decision to leave social media and start a business without it. They discuss the evolution of social media from a platform for personal use to a tool for content creation and marketing. Amelia shares her journey of selling courses, stickers, and self-publishing a book through Instagram and how she ultimately decided to leave social media altogether. They explore the benefits and drawbacks of social media and the possibility of running a successful business without it.   Show notes:  [00:00:12] Starting a business without social media.  [00:04:37] Codependency and Instagram. [00:09:03] Leaving social media intentionally. [00:13:43] The dangers of social media. [00:16:12] Benefits of social media for small businesses. [00:19:52] Social media distraction. [00:24:13] Finding clients without social media. [00:27:23] Networking and selling in business. [00:31:27] Reframing sales as relationships. [00:37:51] Business success without social media. [00:39:01] Leaving social media for business.   More About Dr. Stockhausen: Amelia Hruby is a writer, educator and podcaster with a PhD in philosophy. She is the founder & executive producer of Softer Sounds, a feminist podcast studio for entrepreneurs and creatives. And she’s the host of Off the Grid, a podcast about leaving social media without losing all your clients.   Resources from this Episode:  Amelia's Website Softer Sounds Studio Off The Grid Podcast Get the Leaving Social Media Toolkit   Follow Dr. Karen Litzy on Social Media: Karen’s Twitter Karen’s Instagram Karen’s LinkedIn   Subscribe to Healthy, Wealthy & Smart: YouTube Website Apple Podcast Spotify SoundCloud Stitcher iHeart Radio