What's a global North-founded influencing NGO to do to stay relevant, credible, and effective?  And should influencing NGOs see power as an infinite resource -- that can be grown and shared and in principle is unlimited in nature -- or as a limited asset that needs to be fought for?  Finally, how does a seasoned advocacy NGO leader look upon the current moment as a combination of crisis and opportunity? I discussed these topics during a wide-ranging interview with Paul O'Brien, Vice President of Policy and Advocacy at Oxfam America. Paul's bio ·       Vice president for policy and advocacy, Oxfam America ·       Director of Aid Effectiveness, Oxfam America·       Long term work in Afghanistan ·       Also worked as Policy Advisor in Care International ·       Graduated from Harvard Law School   Quotes“We want to be relevant to next-generation influencers, such as distributed, organic, indigenous, networked and virtual activists”“After COVID, governments will review which CSOs fomented change and will go after them”We discussed:·      Is power conceptually something that should be seen as an asset that can be grown and in principle is unlimited?·      Or is it time for influencing NGOs to rediscover that power is a finite or zero-sum kind of thing?·      Under what conditions can global North founded influencing NGOs maintain their relevance, effectiveness, and legitimacy?·      And what’s the main argument which Paul lays out in his new book ‘Power Switch?Paul’s new book ‘Power Switch’ is available at several online booksellers, including this one.Contact Paul at: paul.obrien@oxfam.org (till March 2021, after which he will pursue new endeavors). Twitter: @paulobrienPaul’s LinkedIn profileClick here to subscribe to be alerted when new podcast episodes come out or when Tosca produces other thought leadership pieces.Or email Tosca at tosca@5oaksconsulting.org if you want to talk about your social sector organization’s needs, challenges, and opportunities.You can find Tosca’s content by following her on her social media channels: Twitter LinkedIn Facebook