Nonprofits tend to be trapped in complacency and married to the status quo.  But what does it mean to lead in a time when the only constant is change? How can we exist in and manage teams when our realities continue to be upended? How can we galvanize movements if we ourselves aren't taking care of our mental, physical, spiritual, and emotional health? In the latest episode of Nonprofit Nation, Julia sat down with fundraising and leadership expert Kishshana Palmer to give us an injection of truth, energy, and edification. Kishshana is an adjunct professor at Baruch College, a Certified Fundraising Executive (CFRE), a BoardSource Certified Governance Trainer (CGT) and an AFP Master Trainer. She is the founder of Kishshana & Co., author of Hey, I’m New Here , podcast host of Let’s Take This Offline, and founder of The Rooted Collaborative ™. She is passionate about ensuring that women — particularly women of color — are seen AND heard in philanthropy, a sector we built but do not lead. Here are some of the topics we discussed:How to lead in a time when the only constant is changeImportant characteristics of resilient leadersWays to balance personal and professional wellness and wellbeingHow to keep talented people in your organization Why social justice is integral to the work we ALL do (no matter your mission)A Kishshana quotable: "When change is the only constant, folks who are really leading are clear, are vulnerable, are learning, and they are most definitely listening - they know how to read the virtual room."Connect with Kishshana:https://www.linkedin.com/in/kishshanapalmer/https://www.facebook.com/kishshanapalmerhttps://www.instagram.com/kishshanapalmer/https://twitter.com/kishshanapalmerhttps://therootedcollaborative.com/about/Let's Take This Offline: The Podcast for Everyday LeadersDo me a favor? Rate, Review, & Follow on Apple Podcasts (or your podcast player of choice) - it helps this podcast get seen by more people that would enjoy it!About Julia Campbell, the host of the Nonprofit Nation podcast:Named as a top thought leader by Forbes and BizTech Magazine, Julia Campbell (she/hers) is an author, coach, and speaker on a mission to make the digital world a better place.She wrote her book, Storytelling in the Digital Age: A Guide for Nonprofits, as a roadmap for social change agents who want to build movements using engaging digital storytelling techniques. Her second book, How to Build and Mobilize a Social Media Community for Your Nonprofit, was published in 2020 as a call-to-arms for mission-driven organizations to use the power of social media to build movements. Julia’s online courses, webinars, and talks have helped hundreds of nonprofits make the shift to digital thinking and raise more money online. Clients include Mastercard , Facebook, GoFundMe Charity, Meals on Wheels America, the Make-A-Wish Foundation, and the Boys & Girls Clubs of America.