In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Marco Brown discuss:Figuring out the business of law for survival.Key systems for success at your firm.Marketing and sales for lawyers.Becoming a student of the sales game. Key Takeaways:You have to want success. Wanting to be a good lawyer is the bottom of the barrel. You need to also want to have monetary success.When you make more money, you can help more people.Sales is important, not a dirty word. You can’t service those you could help if you don’t have any clients.Be you in your sales process. Your clients want to work with you because they think you can help serve them as you are. "I do it the way I do it because I want to help my family and secure their wealth. I want to help my team and secure their wealth for them and their family, and so we can help can 10s of 1000s of people going through a divorce. That is my duty to people. That's why I do things the way I do." —  Marco Brown Thank you to our Sponsors!Legalese Marketing: https://legaleasemarketing.com/Moneypenny: https://www.moneypenny.com/us/Practice Panther: https://www.practicepanther.com/ Episode References: Book: The Closer’s Survival Guide by Grant Cardone: https://www.amazon.com/Closers-Survival-Guide-Third/dp/B00C7ISUZABook: The Total Money Makeover by Dave Ramsey: https://www.amazon.com/Total-Money-Makeover-Classic-Financial/dp/1595555277 Connect with Marco Brown:  Website: https://www.brownfamilylaw.com/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcocbrown/Twitter: https://twitter.com/BrownLawLLC Connect with Steve Fretzin:LinkedIn: Steve FretzinTwitter: @stevefretzinFacebook: Fretzin, Inc.Website: Fretzin.comEmail: Steve@Fretzin.comBook: Legal Business Development Isn't Rocket Science and more!YouTube: Steve FretzinCall Steve directly at 847-602-6911  Show notes by Podcastologist Chelsea Taylor-Sturkie Audio production by Turnkey Podcast Productions. You're the expert. Your podcast will prove it.