Hey guys! I had a ton of fun chatting with Nancie Ruder, who is the Founder of Noetic Consultants, and also the author of "Jack and Jill Went Up The Hill: How Senior Marketers Scale the Heights Through Art and Science." I love talking about art and science and marketing because it reminds me a lot of how we optimizing our own social media. We use data, we know what works, but also, it takes just a little bit of art. Take a listen.