Marina Willer is a graphic designer, filmmaker, and partner at Pentagram. Marina is renowned for her design work, which includes branding work for Tate, the Southbank Centre, Rolls Royce as well as the Battersea animal rescue centre. Over time, her work has centred on reimagining identities of brands that contribute good to the world – whether that’s charities or not-for-profit organisations.   In our conversation, Marina discusses her early childhood influences, the beginnings of her career in Brazil and her move to London, which kickstarted new design practices and fresh perspectives. We also talk about the importance of curiosity and Marina offers practical tips on how to keep it alive. And we explore Marina’s film Red Trees and draw parallels to the current political situation in Europe.    To get new weekly On Design podcast episodes directly in your inbox, sign up to our newsletter at https://ondesignpodcast.com/newsletter. Podcast music: James Greenfield Production: Green Podcast Productions