In today’s episode, Greg and Patrick start a conversation about how COVID-19 has had an instantaneous and lasting impact on research, what we can do about it right now, and what we can be thinking about for the future as we move forward, together. Along the way they also manage to mention... elevators of blood, Joe Exotic, wisdom of crowds, a fatted ox, skinned knees, intellectual judo, I meant to do that, truck drivin’ subtlety, Apollo 13, hitting a change-up, naive optimism, Thomas Kuhn, and losing your balance.