Tyson is getting all the feels and we're joined by Nicole Obst, Talent Management and Development extraordinaire, under a cancer new moon to discuss the complicated layers of management and organizational development and why leadership training just... never works. This episode is sponsored by Showcase™ - A Benefits Marketing Platform. Put your benefits, employee events, and updates in every pocket to keep your employer brand top of mind (learn more at www.perksshowcase.com) and PERKSCon, The World's Largest Employee Experience Expo taking place in SF, NYC, Boston, LA, Chicago, and Toronto in 2021 (learn more at www.perkscon.com).