Tyson built her ‘kid a cage’ during early mat leave and we sit down with her friend Ana Araujo, Director for Talent Acquisition & Learning and Development for The Hudson’s Bay Company, a 66,000 person global retailer. We all get fired up about a stupid HR tweet and HR’s moral high ground, we discuss the wonderful journey of how Ana left the People profession for operations and returned to it all the wiser, and have a good hard chat about when the right time to leave HR and become an artisan barista might be (2026).      Support our sponsors! People Problems is brought to you for free by: The People Ops Society - Your tribe of People peers awaits... Yes you'll learn things, and yes you'll earn professional credentials... but it won't be boring. We promise. Listeners receive 20% off with code 'PPLProblems20' for your first 2 years of membership!  Your team needs to know about their benefits year-round—not just during open enrollment. Kill your FAQs and keep their questions answered in one place with Showcase™ - Book a demo today for 20% off your annual subscription!