Jonathan de Potter is the Founder of Behold Retreats, a health and wellness platform that provides holistic plant medicine programs in beautiful, conscious, and soulful locations. He advocates unlocking true human potential by tapping into the inner self using holistic practices and plant medicine, a journey that stemmed from his desire to find his own life's purpose. In 2016, as an atheist confined in the corporate web, Jonathan took a year off from his full-time job for his first-ever plant medicine retreat in Peru. Humbled by the experience, he started spending more time researching plant medicine, and in the process, realized its connection with the human subconscious and how it helps embody life with more purpose and meaning. Today, he imparts this learning and wisdom as a healing facilitator to help transform the lives of many more people, unlike popular practice that consolidates knowledge into a product or periodic program. In today's conversation, Jonathan explores what it takes to master the journey of a true healer, including profound connection and surrendering for deeper exploration of the subconscious and conscious realms. Moreover, he intertwines science, culture, and the community's power to explain energetic interactions (that exist beyond your physical body) and talks about using plant-based medicines to intentionally release inherent trauma or lower-level energies to live a more conscious, content life. But what if your life is already free of the said trauma and is as happy as you know it? Is there a higher level of self you could experience? As Jonathan explains, there's a level beyond your present state of consciousness that involves greater trust and confidence in the universe; a life that serves not only you but also inspires the world outside you. That's where energetic healing has the potential to take you.   Follow Jonathan @behold_retreats Follow Chase @chase_chewning   Episode resources: Save 30% on any Organifi superfood product with code EVERFORWARD now through Dec 31, 2021 at www.Organifi.com/everforward  Save 15% on any Cured Nutrition functional mushroom and CBD product with code EVERFORWARD at www.CuredNutrition.com  Learn more and get complete show notes at https://chasechewning.com/podcasts/episode/560