On this episode we chat with Pake McNally. Pake is a BJJ black belt, Blacksmith, former Wildland Firefighter, and the owner and fabricator of "Become Stronger Industries." Pake talks about how he became a Wildland Firefighter, learning Blacksmithing, his introduction to BJJ and the parallels of metal work and BJJ, starting his metalworking business ("Become Stronger Industries). We also discuss the importance of purpose, starting Jiu-Jitsu and how it pulled Pake out of a difficult time in his life, the importance of being part of a tribe/group, the value of activities with delayed gratification, how Pake started his blacksmithing business, the benefits of strengthening with maces, and the BJJ scene in rural Kansas. If you want to pick up a custom mace or any other metalwork, check out https://become-stronger.com/ and use the promo code Chewjitsu to get 10% off of your purchase. Thanks to the podcast sponsors: Charlotte's Web CBD. Head over to https://bit.ly/38FnyUv and use the promo code Chewjitsu to get 15% off of your total purchase. Epic Roll BJJ. Check out https://www.epicrollbjj.com and use the promo code Chewjitsu to get 15% off of your total purchase. Become Stronger Industries. Visit https://become-stronger.com/ and use the promo code Chewjitsu to get 10% off of your purchase. Check out podcast exclusives including conversations with guests, Q&A sessions, and tons more at https://patreon.com/thechewjitsupodcast