Brandon Kindred's dad redirected his excess energy and curiosity to learning programming with a teach yourself in 24 hours book. The same thing happened in school, where a chance encounter (getting caught programming) led to a spot on the robotics team. We talk about lessons learned from robotics competitions, using AI and ML to improve software testing, and where the soft powder is in Colorado.   The FIRST robotics organization https://www.firstinspires.org/robotics/frc  Brandon's company https://www.look-see.com/ Autodesk's 3DS Max - https://www.autodesk.com/products/3ds-max/overview?support=ADVANCED&plc=3DSMAX&term=1-YEAR&quantity=1  The conference that recognized Qanairy for Best in class for Transfer learning - https://aidevworld.com/ The company where Brandon's Dad is CTO - https://sqad.com/ The insurance group run by Brandon's old sales mentor Adam Schwartz - http://afoxassoc.com/our-family/