Today Richard catches up with Chef Gavin Kaysen in his flagship Spoon and Stable Restaurant. After explaining how Gavin is working with his hometown Minnesota Wild, he and Richard draw parallels between athletics and the culinary worlds. Gavin talks about his long run working for Chef Daniel Boulud, the influences he has taken from there and the lessons he is able to pass on. Gavin also speaks about how their industry can change into more of a profession and the ways he has already been working towards that goal. Remember to join us on social @Starving4pod.