In this episode, I had the honor of talking to two powerful leaders who love to talk politics - even though they are on opposite sides of many issues.  If you struggle to have compassionate conversations around politics with friends & family who have differing beliefs and belief systems, this conversation will be really eye-opening and helpful.  Sarah Stewart Holland (from the left) has always loved politics, although her political opinions have changed d rastically over the years. She worked in politics and on Capitol Hill before moving back to her hometown of Paducah, KY, where she served on the Paducah City Commission. She is happily married and the mother of three sons. Sarah likes her bourbon on ice, her romantic dramas with a British accent and her iPhone fully charged. Beth Silvers (from the right) owns and operates Checking In with Beth Silvers, a life and business coaching practice. She has been recognized as one of Ohio’s Most Powerful and Influential Women by the Ohio Diversity Council, a Human Resources GameChanger by Workforce Magazine, and one of Cincinnati’s Forty Under 40 business leaders. Beth lives in Union with her husband, Chad; daughters Jane (8) and Ellen (3), and miniature schnauzer, Lucy. She loves people, politics, poetry, and watermelon. Listen in to hear Beth and Sarah share: The typically strongest values on the right vs the left How your family of origin impacts your politics The power of observing vs judging The value of getting curious instead of confrontational The power of acknowledging and addressing shared concerns and shared values Why people of privilege need to have the uncomfortable conversations How to navigate difficult conversations with grace Why it’s important for moms to be politically engaged Links mentioned: Podcast: Pantsuit Politics Get Sarah and Beth’s Book: I Think You’re Wrong (But I’m Listening): A Guide To Grace Filled Political Conversations Book: The Righteous Mind by Jonathan Haidt Instagram - Pantsuit Politics Pantsuit Politics Twitter Pantsuit Politics Facebook Twitter - Pantsuit Politics Thank you to our sponsors: Talkspace: To match with your perfect therapist for a fraction of the price of traditional therapy, go to Talkspace, Make sure to use the code SHAMELESS to get your first week free and show your support for this show. Rothy's: To get free shipping on any order of Rothy’s shoes, as well as free returns, go to Rothy's and use the code SHAMELESS at checkout. Instacart: Get your groceries delivered to your door! Save $10 off your first order at Instacart or on the Instacart mobile app when you use the promo code SHAMELESS10 at checkout.