When a client walks into your treatment room, they are asking for your hands to help them. But oftentimes, they are also asking – whether explicitly or implicitly – for us to tell them what’s happening with their bodies. In this episode of The ABMP Podcast, Kristin and Darren sit down with David Lobenstine to discuss his latest article in Massage & Bodywork magazine, “Leave Diagnosing to the Doctors”, what the differences between assessing and diagnosing are, consequences to talking to clients in ways that aren’t helpful, and how to create possibility in a session. David Lobenstine has been massaging, teaching, writing, and editing for over 15 years. He is an authorized instructor of Pre- and Perinatal Massage Therapy workshops and coauthor of the book Pre-and Perinatal Massage Therapy. He also designs and teaches his own continuing education workshops, both across the US and online. For more information about David, visit www.bodybrainbreath.com. David is also an author for Massage & Bodywork magazine and today we’re going to discuss his most recent article “Leave Diagnosing to the Doctor” in the January/February 2022 issue.   Sponsors:     Anatomy Trains: www.anatomytrains.com      Universal Companies: https://www.universalcompanies.com/     Dr. Ida Rolf Institute: https://www.rolf.org/     Handspring Publishing: https://www.handspringpublishing.com/     Anatomy Trains is a global leader in online anatomy education and also provides in-classroom certification programs for structural integration in the US, Canada, Australia, Europe, Japan, and China, as well as fresh-tissue cadaver dissection labs and weekend courses. The work of Anatomy Trains originated with founder Tom Myers, who mapped the human body into 13 myofascial meridians in his original book, currently in its fourth edition and translated into 12 languages. The principles of Anatomy Trains are used by osteopaths, physical therapists, bodyworkers, massage therapists, personal trainers, yoga, Pilates, Gyrotonics, and other body-minded manual therapists and movement professionals. Anatomy Trains inspires these practitioners to work with holistic anatomy in treating system-wide patterns to provide improved client outcomes in terms of structure and function.                      Website: anatomytrains.com                        Email: info@anatomytrains.com             Facebook: facebook.com/AnatomyTrains                       Instagram: www.instagram.com/anatomytrainsofficial   YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC2g6TOEFrX4b-CigknssKHA         Universal Companies has everything the spa professional needs for success, including massage tables and accessories, linens, tools, pain relief products like arnica, and a range of lotions, oils, and gels. The products we offer help the independent practitioner save on their everyday expenses, as well as provide the convenience of shopping across broad categories. Recognized as the “Favorite Distributor” in the American Spa Professional’s Choice Awards for the past 17 years, we see this as a continuous challenge to provide the best products that pros trust the most. Beyond our extensive selection of spa products, equipment, and tools, we have an education and marketing site for our customers to develop their skills and promote their business. The UCo Learning Network offers CEU courses, marketing kits, and business tools.   Universal Companies website https://www.universalcompanies.com/   Universal Companies on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/universalcompaniesinc   Universal Companies on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/universalcos/   Universal Companies on Twitter https://twitter.com/Universalcos   Universal Companies on Pinterest https://www.pinterest.com/universalcos/_shop/   Universal Companies on LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/company/universal-companies/mycompany/   About Dr. Ida Rolf Institute The Dr. Ida Rolf Institute® (DIRI) is a global leader in optimizing human structure and function through our prop