This week's episode features panel regular Robyn Clark, along with Pete Maynard & Naj Seedat. This episode is brought to you in partnership with Practice Index & this week focuses on the topic of practice managers as partners in GP practices. Robyn and Pete share their personal journeys, recounting their transitions from practice managers to partners. They provide insights into the intricacies of this transition and shed light on the differences they've observed since moving into their partner roles. Naj offers his perspective on the appeal of having business decisions made by management partners, they discuss the resistance some practices encounter and the factors contributing to the reluctance to make practice managers partners. Additionally, they explore whether more practice managers are expressing interest in pursuing this career shift and who should consider taking this path. As the podcast concludes, our experts generously offer valuable advice for those contemplating the journey towards becoming a partner within their GP practice. Introduction (0:31) Becoming a Partner (1:04) Navigating the partnership process (2:15) Pete's path to partnership (4:43) Addressing resistance to Practice Managers as Partners (7:10) Growing interest among Practice Managers (9:21) Insights from the journey as partners so far (11:48) The appeal of business partner-led decision making (14:55) Impact on practice performance and staff perspectives (16:10) Navigating the complexity of the Practice Manager to Partner relationship (19:17) IGPM Accreditation Framework (21:24) Expert Advice for aspiring Partners (22:57) To visit the Practice Index website, click here or contact James Dillon here. For all enquiries about the Ockham podcast, please contact Ben Gowland here.