Joe Sanok is a productivity researcher, business consultant, and creator of the popular The Practice of the Practice podcast. Let’s just say Joe gets a lot done, but he does manage to do this with his ideas of hard and soft boundaries and clearly delineating the lines between what is work and what is play. There is a lot to learn from Joe, his approach, and the initiatives he’s started through his book and from his programs.Joe shares with us that if we say we want to figure out how to focus more on what’s important when it’s time to focus, we need to prioritize when we’re working and when we’re going to boundary time for play. We learn how to apply these principles to customize them for your own situation to be more productive at work while enjoying more leisure time.Time Stamps:The story of the tortoise and the hare. 6:25Tortoise and hare story.Hare did it right, but they didn't have the right tools.Adopt a learner’s mindset. 9:47Experimentations on the book.How to avoid burnout by going rock climbing. 15:23Why is it important to take action? 18:02The three p’s of podcast launch. 22:24The full humanity of our life experience. 31:00Joe’s curiosity test. 38:32Show Notes:http://joesanok.com/manifestohttps://joesanok.com/experiments/https://joesanok.com/testAnd use the code TITNY for a free testCheck out his book: Thursday is the New FridayFind out more about Big Self SchoolWe still offer our flagship burnout coaching package. We also offer packages for those seeking clarity and reconnecting to their life purpose–and we do this work with individuals and couples. Reach out to us if you’d like to book a discovery call and learn more about our coaching packages.Want to learn more about the role stress plays in your life, and discover your blueprint for how to handle it based on your Enneagram type and subtype? Book a discovery call hereJoin us at the Burnout to Big Self Facebook GroupOrder a copy of Chad’s