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72: "Making Compassion Easier" - Tobias Leenaert - Author and meta-advocate - Sentientist Conversation

72: "Making Compassion Easier" - Tobias Leenaert - Author and meta-advocate - Sentientist Conversation

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72: "Making Compassion Easier" - Tobias Leenaert - Author and meta-advocate - Sentientist Conversation

FromSentientism

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Length:
68 minutes
Released:
Aug 25, 2021
Format:
Podcast episode

Description

Tobias (@TobiasLeenaert) is an author & a vegan advocacy consultant. He blogs at Veganstrategist.org & wrote "How to Create a Vegan World". He is the co-founder of ProVeg International. He is an Effective Altruist - thinking about the best ways to achieve a compassionate society. He also describes himself as a "Slow opinionist".
In Sentientist Conversations we talk about the two most important questions: “what’s real?” & “what matters?”
Sentientism is "evidence, reason & compassion for all sentient beings." The video of our conversation is here on YouTube.

We discuss:
0:00 Welcome

1:28 Tobias' Intro - A life of vegan advocacy
- Setting up EVA, then "meta-activism" helping other activists be more effective

2:37 What's Real?
- Being confirmed as a Catholic & attending Catholic school because "that's just what you do"
- Defending rational & scientific worldviews
- "I'm not the most devout atheist you can find"... there's a possibility there's "something more"
- Could religious visions one day be made real through technology? Reincarnation, heaven, creation/simulation?
- "Maybe religious ideas are perversions of what is technologically possible"
- Science fiction
- Hallucinogenics & "religious" experiences
- The hard problem of consciousness vs. "it's just what doing this sort of info processing feels like"
- The echoes of religious ideas even for those who no longer believe. The Exorcist" movie

15:34 What Matters Morally?
- Being raised as an ethical person. Volunteering at 12 yrs old
- A teenage phase of being less morally engaged, then "it came back - especially with animals"
- "That empathy was there always - without needing a system of rules"
- Emotional & rational bases for compassionate ethics
- "You can be a vegan sociopath"... decide rationally to act compassionately without feeling empathy

22:12 Extending moral consideration to non-humans
- Loving companion cats and dogs at home as a child
- Wondering what's the difference between them & cows we eat
- "If I can't answer that question I have to stop eating animals"
- Taking 10 years to go vegan even after that realisation
- The power of taste preference... overcoming intertia
- Making a bet to go without meat for a month. Then carrying on
- Empathy, reasoning, then practice
- "Making compassion easier"
- Peter Singer's shallow pond thought experiment
- Anthropocentrism, sentiocentrism, biocentrism, ecocentrism
- Wild animal suffering & artificial sentients
- "I don't see the point in going beyond sentientism - only sentient beings can suffer by definition"
- The dangers of environmentalists granting moral consideration to species or populations that have no concerns & can't experience
... and much more. Full notes at Sentientism.info and on YouTube.

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Thanks Graham https://twitter.com/cgbessellieu.
Released:
Aug 25, 2021
Format:
Podcast episode

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Want a philosophy or worldview that's grounded in reality and has compassion for all sentient beings (mostly humans and other animals)? Then you might find Sentientism interesting. It's "evidence, reason and compassion for all sentient beings." In this podcast, you'll hear about "what's real" and "what matters" from a wide range of celebrities, academics, activists, writers - and interested lay people like me. Find out more at https://sentientism.info/ or join one of our open-to-all, global community groups, like: https://www.facebook.com/groups/sentientism