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"If you combine rationality and compassion you have the essence" - Jonathan Leighton of OPIS - Sentientism 185

"If you combine rationality and compassion you have the essence" - Jonathan Leighton of OPIS - Sentientism 185

FromSentientism


"If you combine rationality and compassion you have the essence" - Jonathan Leighton of OPIS - Sentientism 185

FromSentientism

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Length:
83 minutes
Released:
Feb 2, 2024
Format:
Podcast episode

Description

Jonathan is an ethics strategist, writer, social change
advocate and public speaker. He is Executive Director of the Organisation for the Prevention of Intense Suffering (OPIS), a Swiss-based think-and-do tank that promotes the prevention of human and non-human suffering as our overriding global ethical priority. His book, The Battle for Compassion: Ethics in an Apathetic Universe, explores the question "What matters?". His new book The Tango of Ethics: Intuition, Rationality and the Prevention of Suffering goes further in proposing a rigorous reassessment of how we think about ethics.
In Sentientist Conversations we talk about the two most important questions: “what’s real?” & “who matters?”
Sentientism is "evidence, reason & compassion for all sentient beings." The video of our conversation is ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠here on YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.
We discuss:
00:00 Clips!
01:00 Welcome
03:34 Jon's Intro
- Molecular biology PhD
- Ethicist
- Writing "The Battle for Compassion" and "The Tango of Ethics"
- Running the "think and do tech" OPIS (Organisation for the Prevention of Intense Suffering) "Trying to put the ideas into practice" 
04:41 What's Real?
- A scientific family, physicist father
- "A naturalistic, mechanistic way of thinking about the world"
- "It's not that there was no #spirituality at all... a #Jewish household that was more traditional than religious... Reciting things that I didn't necessarily understand the meaning of"
- "...a brief phase where I did take things [the Bible] more literally... but that didn't last very long"
- "Seeing the world as inherently physical"
- "Not to say that the subjective doesn't matter... the subjective is the essence of what matters"
- Maternal grandfather "I remember him describing himself as a Humanist... his way of saying 'don't take the supernatural too
seriously'"
- "I think spirituality is an important part of life... but I don't think of spirituality in the supernatural sense... I think of spirituality in terms of the experience... a feeling that there is an intense meaning possible in life."
- "During spiritual experiences we might suspend the very rational perspective. You can't really be fully plunged into a spiritual experience if you're also trying to analyse things scientifically at the same time."
- In circles with people, lighting a fire, reciting poetry... "it feels like a source of meaning at times to get into that other state of mind."
- "It's this dance between two very different perspectives"
- "How do we reconcile the need to understand reality as accurately as possible using the tools of rationality and science and how do we also extract meaning from our existence?"
- JW: Instead of a scientistic denial or a mystical reification of the subjective... a recognition that our subjective experiences are part of the objective world we all share... and are the source of its value and meaning
- Subjective experience is determined by the physical "but you won't actually know what it's like... without having experienced
it yourself"
13:25 What Matters?
- "Subjective experience... it's the most important part of reality... the only part of reality that really matters when it comes down to ethics..."
46:40 Who Matters?
01:03:37 How To Make A Better World?
01:19:43 Follow Jon and OPIS
- https://www.jonathanleighton.org/
- https://www.preventsuffering.org/
...and much more. Full show notes at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Sentientism.info⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.
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Released:
Feb 2, 2024
Format:
Podcast episode

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Want a philosophy or worldview that's grounded in reality and has compassion for all sentient beings (mostly humans and other animals)? Then you might find Sentientism interesting. It's "evidence, reason and compassion for all sentient beings." In this podcast, you'll hear about "what's real" and "what matters" from a wide range of celebrities, academics, activists, writers - and interested lay people like me. Find out more at https://sentientism.info/ or join one of our open-to-all, global community groups, like: https://www.facebook.com/groups/sentientism