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155: Dogs and pigs have meaningful lives! - Philosopher Michael Hauskeller - Sentientism

155: Dogs and pigs have meaningful lives! - Philosopher Michael Hauskeller - Sentientism

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155: Dogs and pigs have meaningful lives! - Philosopher Michael Hauskeller - Sentientism

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Length:
95 minutes
Released:
May 16, 2023
Format:
Podcast episode

Description

Michael is head of philosophy at the University of Liverpool. His current work spans transhumanism, death & meaning. He has written a vast range of topics, including on whether non-human animals can have meaningful lives & "What It Is Like to Be a Bot". He says of his work: "As a philosopher, I am a generalist, which is a nice way of saying that I have done many different things & I am not really an expert on anything in particular."
In Sentientist Conversations we talk about the two most important questions: “what’s real?” & “who matters?”
Sentientism is "evidence, reason & compassion for all sentient beings." The video of our conversation is ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠here on YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.
We discuss:
00:00 Welcome
01:42 Michael's Intro
- What it means to be human, to live a good life, a meaningful life
- Transhumanism & human enhancement
- Meaning & life & death
- When dealing with foundational, broad questions: "It is very difficult to be precise... I hardly ever feel that 'now I've got it'"
06:06 What's Real?
- "It's much easier to point at something & disuss whether that is real"
- "If you can name something then in some sense it must be real"
- Raised #Christian & sent to Sunday school & Bible classes & regular confessions to the village priest
- "I sort of believed there was a god when I was little"
- A god watching me "a means of controlling me... Big Brother in heaven... it was just oppressive... a punishing god, a critical god"
- "I didn't feel the presence... I just believed that there was something because I was told there was something"
- "Very quickly I dropped my religious beliefs... as soon as I started to think for myself I became an #atheist"
- "It just faded away... it was always superficial"
- "Some people take me for a Christian because I share some of the intuitions religious believers have"
- "I'm not entirely comfortable with calling myself a naturalist although I don't believe in anything supernatural"
- "Naturalism is also very programmatic & ideological"
- "There are a lot of things in this world that we cannot understand...& some naturalists are very confident that we can understand everything & that's there's no mystery... there is a lot of mystery."
- Max More's #transhumanism ... pits science vs. religion
- Origins of the universe & life & consciousness "we don't know!" Science might figure it out - it might not
- "... whatever there is is part of nature"
- Over-confidence vs. humility
- The subjective & the objective
- Plato & Parmenides: "being is more real than becoming"... "but we live in a world of becoming... how can that be less real?"
- The "normative use of reality"... to "declare something else as not real... a term to deny something else its reality"
- The denial of animal suffering "not so common any more" & the #cartesian model
- "If you see an animal in pain you know it is in pain... it takes a lot of willful blindness not to acknowledge..."
- "One of the reasons... why animals could not possibly feel any pain... because it would then be far too horrible how we treat animals... god wouldn't allow it!"
- "If we assume the world is good & we see all the apparent suffering... then it cannot be... A moral reason behind denying the suffering of animals"
- JW "An echo of a religious mode of thought that's then re-built in a humanist mode of thought"
- "If we have evolved naturally... there's no reason to assume our brains are capable of understanding the universe... what possible use can it have?"
- "A naturalistic perspective should actually teach us humility"
29:03 What Matters?

...and much more. Full show notes at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Sentientism.info⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.
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Released:
May 16, 2023
Format:
Podcast episode

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Want a philosophy or worldview that's grounded in reality and has compassion for all sentient beings (mostly humans and other animals)? Then you might find Sentientism interesting. It's "evidence, reason and compassion for all sentient beings." In this podcast, you'll hear about "what's real" and "what matters" from a wide range of celebrities, academics, activists, writers - and interested lay people like me. Find out more at https://sentientism.info/ or join one of our open-to-all, global community groups, like: https://www.facebook.com/groups/sentientism