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48: "Maybe moral systems are harmful! Like religion they are used to divide us." - Walter Veit - philosopher, scientist and sentientist - Sentientist Conversation

48: "Maybe moral systems are harmful! Like religion they are used to divide us." - Walter Veit - philosopher, scientist and sentientist - Sentientist…

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48: "Maybe moral systems are harmful! Like religion they are used to divide us." - Walter Veit - philosopher, scientist and sentientist - Sentientist…

FromSentientism

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Length:
87 minutes
Released:
Apr 20, 2021
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Podcast episode

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Walter (https://twitter.com/wrwveit & https://walterveit.com/) is an interdisciplinary scientist, philosopher & writer focusing on biology, minds & ethics. He publishes the ‘Science & Philosophy‘ series on Psychology Today & Medium.
In these Sentientist Conversations we talk about the two most important questions: “what’s real?” & “what matters?" Sentientism is "evidence, reason & compassion for all sentient beings."
Our conversation is also here on YouTube: https://youtu.be/xxSGItuaSn4.
We discuss:
- Defending Descartes, as a child!
- Studying philosophy, politics, economics & science
- Writing a PhD on the philosophy of consciousness. How sentience came to arise in a purely physical universe
- Growing up in an agnostic family, attending church but "grumbling"
- Finding it strange learning about god at school. Asking annoying questions :)
- A brief early teenage phase of believing in god, then reverting to atheism
- Church seemed like a "weird cult-like thing." "It just didn't make sense."
- There are thousands of religions. They can't all be right. Just disbelieving in one more than religious people do
- Being a "hard-core naturalist" but still feeling the pull of superstition
- Finding naturalism reassuring. Can abandon the "f*cking scary stuff" (monsters, ghosts, hell)
- We can just enjoy our lives & explore the universe
- The pull of being part of something larger. The universe, a tribe, a sports team fan group...
- The hesitation in Germany about collectivism
- "It's a peculiar world we live in - it's exciting"
- Does morality crumble without the normative force of a god. "A dude in the sky making up laws and we just have to follow them"
- People sceptical of morality aren't sceptical about laws. You can break them but there might be consequences
- Too much of morality seems arbitrary. But Bentham almost proposed utilitarianism as a sort of science, not morality
- Utilitarians in the UK were engaged in politics & in improving the world
- Instead of considering morality - just consider the facts re: "What do animals want from their own point of view"
- Facts: animals exist. They can be harmed. They don't like suffering
- Humans evolved as a social species. That makes us care
- "Morality" might create more harms than benefits!
- There is no dividing line between humans and other animals because we all have interests
- Both morality and religion have been used to divide humans & animals
- Even oppressive groups have divided people through an appeal to morality
- The deep connection between morality and spirituality/religion. Often naturalists & atheists don't see the danger
- Naturalists are attacked for being amoral but are no less moral
- And much more... Full show notes are on Sentientism.info. I ran out of space!
Sentientism is “Evidence, reason & compassion for all sentient beings.” More at https://sentientism.info/.
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Thanks, Graham for the post-prod: https://twitter.com/cgbessellieu.
Released:
Apr 20, 2021
Format:
Podcast episode

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Want a philosophy or worldview that's grounded in reality and has compassion for all sentient beings (mostly humans and other animals)? Then you might find Sentientism interesting. It's "evidence, reason and compassion for all sentient beings." In this podcast, you'll hear about "what's real" and "what matters" from a wide range of celebrities, academics, activists, writers - and interested lay people like me. Find out more at https://sentientism.info/ or join one of our open-to-all, global community groups, like: https://www.facebook.com/groups/sentientism