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62: "Animal farming will end by the end of this century" - Jacy Reese Anthis - Sentientist Conversation

62: "Animal farming will end by the end of this century" - Jacy Reese Anthis - Sentientist Conversation

FromSentientism


62: "Animal farming will end by the end of this century" - Jacy Reese Anthis - Sentientist Conversation

FromSentientism

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Length:
78 minutes
Released:
Jun 21, 2021
Format:
Podcast episode

Description

Jacy (https://twitter.com/jacyanthis & https://jacyanthis.com/) is a social scientist & co-founder of the Sentience Institute (https://www.sentienceinstitute.org/). His acclaimed book, The End of Animal Farming  (https://jacyanthis.com/book), analyzes the development & popularisation of food technologies such as plant-based & cultivated meat.
In Sentientist Conversations we talk about the two most important questions: “what’s real?” & “what matters?”
Sentientism is "evidence, reason & compassion for all sentient beings." The video of our conversation is here on YouTube.
We discuss:
0:00 Welcome

1:26 Jacy's Intro
Utilitarianism, Effective Altruism, Buddhism, neuroscience, community building, Animal Charity Evaluators, Sentience Institute, The End of Animal Farming, Sociology PhD & moral expansion.

3:22 What's Real?
- Growing up around Baptist & Catholic churches near Houston but in an agnostic family
- Attending church "lockins"
- "I wasn't even told Santa was real growing up"
- Interested in Buddhist views of suffering, but not the supernatural aspects
- Naturalism has a connotation that there is nothing supernatural. "That's an empirical claim about which I remain uncertain"
- Would multiverses, our universe being a simulation or pre-Big Bang history be seen as "supernatural"?
- The varieties of religious identity: metaphysics, ethics, community

9:20 What Matters?
- Moral heuristics & their conflicts
- Adopting utilitarianism at 12 yrs old & looking for a "proof"
- From moral realism to anti-realism (per Brian Tomasik)
- It's up to us to decide which mental phenomenon to put in the "sentience" and "consciousness" categories
- Objectivity, relativism, nihilism & arbitrariness
- Even most religious people would act morally if there was no god
- Rejecting "mind-independent" truth as the next step up from rejecting supernatural truths
- Non-objective morality can still be compelling
- Grounding morality in a concern for the experiences of others
- The priority balance between reducing suffering vs. enhancing flourishing

18:20 Moral Scope & Expansion
- Utilitarianism led to vegetarianism then veganism
- Focusing initially on human issues, working at GiveWell
- Cause prioritisation led back to non-human issues
- Persuading sentiocentrists to be more effective & effective altruists to be sentiocentric
- The bias against helping other species
-  Non-human animal causes can seem sentimental until you engage w/the arguments
- Far future/long-termism
- Effective Altruists have the highest veg*n % of almost any human group
- Ancient roots of sentiocentrism/veganism & naturalism
- "Everything has been said before"

... And much more - see Sentientism.info for full show notes.

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Thanks Graham for the post-prod https://twitter.com/cgbessellieu.
Released:
Jun 21, 2021
Format:
Podcast episode

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Want a philosophy or worldview that's grounded in reality and has compassion for all sentient beings (mostly humans and other animals)? Then you might find Sentientism interesting. It's "evidence, reason and compassion for all sentient beings." In this podcast, you'll hear about "what's real" and "what matters" from a wide range of celebrities, academics, activists, writers - and interested lay people like me. Find out more at https://sentientism.info/ or join one of our open-to-all, global community groups, like: https://www.facebook.com/groups/sentientism