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52: "Ending animal testing is a win-win for humans and animals" - neurologist CEO Aysha Akhtar - Sentientist Conversation

52: "Ending animal testing is a win-win for humans and animals" - neurologist CEO Aysha Akhtar - Sentientist Conversation

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52: "Ending animal testing is a win-win for humans and animals" - neurologist CEO Aysha Akhtar - Sentientist Conversation

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Length:
70 minutes
Released:
May 6, 2021
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Podcast episode

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Aysha (https://twitter.com/DrAyshaAkhtar & http://www.ayshaakhtar.com/) is a neurologist, public health specialist & author. She is President & CEO of the Center for Contemporary Sciences (https://contemporarysciences.org/). She worked for the Office of Counterterrorism & Emerging Threats of the FDA & served as Lieutenant Commander in the US Public Health Service. She is a Fellow of the Oxford Centre for Animal Ethics. Aysha wrote: "Animals &  Public Health: Why treating animals better is critical to human welfare."
In Sentientist Conversations we talk about the two most important questions: “what’s real?” & “what matters?” Sentientism is "evidence, reason & compassion for all sentient beings." The video of our conversation is here on YouTube.
We discuss:
0:00 Welcome & Sentientism
2:10 Aysha Intro
- Neurology, public health, emerging threats (e.g. pandemics)
- Setting up CCS to replace all animal research and testing with human relevant methods
4:27 What's Real? Renouncing Islam, becoming atheist
- Growing up in a Pakistani Muslim family, but more culturally than strictly religious
- Calling herself a Muslim, but then seeing how her father & Muslim society treated girls & women differently
- Feeling pressure to dress modestly
- Announcing "I renounce Islam" at 11 yrs old
- Still believing in a god, then becoming an atheist
- "Why would a god care about me and not someone else living a miserable life?" "If there is a god, why is there so much suffering?"
- How can the suffering we cause animals be something a god could allow?
- Religion helps people feel less lost. Understanding why people cling to it
- Meaning, value, moral structure, purpose, community, love, awe & wonder are available naturalistically too.
15:50 What Matters Morally? All suffering & flourishing beings
- Keeping the good parts of religious morality
- "Living a life that causes the least amount of harm & the greatest amount of joy possible"
- "Of course that includes non-human animals because they feel, they have emotions"
- Our moral basics can be very simple
- Rights, dignity, personhood, sentience
- Why so much philosophy assumes only humans matter. The fundamental mistake of disregarding so much suffering
- People seem more concerned about the potential suffering of AI & mini organic brains, while not caring about animals
- Experiencing sexual abuse & finding solace with Sylvester the dog "my best friend"
- Finding out Sylvester was being physically abused & calling that out, then finding the confidence to stand up for herself
- Accidentally being sent PETA materials about the life of a dairy cow. The family went vegetarian that evening
- Being a vegetarian in the Pakistani community in the 1980's was unheard of
- Being made fun of my other kids, but "I didn't give a damn". "I didn't care what they thought about me I cared what they thought about the issue"
- Reading Regan, Singer. Finding the connections between human & non-human ethics & rights
- "We were such nerds"
31:05 What are sentience & consciousness?
- And more - see YT!
Sentientism is “Evidence, reason & compassion for all sentient beings.” More at https://sentientism.info/. Join our "wall" https://sentientism.info/wall/ w/this form: https://sentientism.info/im-a-sentientist.  
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Released:
May 6, 2021
Format:
Podcast episode

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Want a philosophy or worldview that's grounded in reality and has compassion for all sentient beings (mostly humans and other animals)? Then you might find Sentientism interesting. It's "evidence, reason and compassion for all sentient beings." In this podcast, you'll hear about "what's real" and "what matters" from a wide range of celebrities, academics, activists, writers - and interested lay people like me. Find out more at https://sentientism.info/ or join one of our open-to-all, global community groups, like: https://www.facebook.com/groups/sentientism