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50: "Animal activists don't have to be on the political left" - Josh Milburn - Sentientist Conversation

50: "Animal activists don't have to be on the political left" - Josh Milburn - Sentientist Conversation

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50: "Animal activists don't have to be on the political left" - Josh Milburn - Sentientist Conversation

FromSentientism

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Length:
69 minutes
Released:
Apr 28, 2021
Format:
Podcast episode

Description

Josh (https://josh-milburn.com/ & https://twitter.com/JoshLMilburn & https://www.instagram.com/aveganphilosopher/) is a moral & political philosopher with research interests in animal ethics, the philosophy of food, liberal & libertarian political theory & applied ethics. He is a British Academy Postdoctoral Fellow in the Dept of Politics & International Relations at the University of Sheffield. He co-hosts the Knowing Animals podcast.
In these Sentientist Conversations we talk about the two most important questions: “what’s real?” & “what matters?” Sentientism is "evidence, reason & compassion for all sentient beings." The video of our conversation is here on YouTube: https://youtu.be/akBBFREpveU.
We discuss:
- Taking an interdisciplinary approach to academia & activism
- Encountering various religious traditions as a child
- Thinking "I don't believe that" at 8 years old re: Noah's ark
- Being a "militant atheist" as a teenager
- Studying religions to undergrad level
- What is real & what we can know to be real
- There is a world out there but we don't know all about it
- Science & naturalism
- Dogma vs open-mindedness & humility
- Moral realism & different kinds of claim/evidence
- The dangers of moral relativism & nihilism
- Grounding morality in a naturalistic understanding of sentient beings & sentience. "I don't suffering & I don't think you do either"
- Pluralism
- Religious studies didn't cover philosophy
- Being very resistant to vegetarianism. A fundamental challenge
- Reading Peter Singer at 17 while considering studying philosophy
- "Philosophers are often not the best activists"
- Philosophical arguments don't have the same impact on everyone
- Some people "get it" but still don't change. Others just don't get it
- "Imagine animals had rights - how would we feed the world?... It would't be a vegan food system." Clean/cultivated meats & milks
- "Can we get to an ethical food system without people having to change their practices at all?"
- Animals where it's less certain whether they are sentient. Invertebrates, oysters, jellyfish, insects, sponges
- Deciding how to act in the face of uncertainty
- "It's got to be a high bar to say 'you cannot do that thing that is central to your life'" but "Sentient animals have rights" and that's enough to tell pig farmers to stop
- Edge cases re: veganism & animal ethics
- Liberalism & state coercion. Only using coercion when injustice is clear
- Having compassion for human sentients too, even those doing harm
- #JustTransition
- The history of the term "Sentientism". Rodman, Ryder, Singer
- It's hard not to be consequentialist in its broadest sense
- Deontological rules do have to pay attention to what happens
- Gary Francione's abolitionism
- Sue Donaldson & Will Kymlicka's Zoopolis
- Sentientism as a pluralistic philosophy
- "Animal activists don't have to be on the political left"
- Sentientism rules out intra-human discriminations. Racism/homophobia etc. don't belong
- Robert Nozick was a vegetarian & a libertarian
- And much more. See https://sentientism.info/ or YouTube for full show notes.
Sentientism is “Evidence, reason & compassion for all sentient beings.” More at https://sentientism.info/. 
Join Josh on our "wall" https://sentientism.info/wall/ using this form: https://sentientism.info/im-a-sentientist.
Everyone interested, Sentientist or not, is welcome to join our groups. Main one: https://www.facebook.com/groups/sentientism.
Thanks to Graham for the post-prod https://twitter.com/cgbessellieu.
Released:
Apr 28, 2021
Format:
Podcast episode

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Want a philosophy or worldview that's grounded in reality and has compassion for all sentient beings (mostly humans and other animals)? Then you might find Sentientism interesting. It's "evidence, reason and compassion for all sentient beings." In this podcast, you'll hear about "what's real" and "what matters" from a wide range of celebrities, academics, activists, writers - and interested lay people like me. Find out more at https://sentientism.info/ or join one of our open-to-all, global community groups, like: https://www.facebook.com/groups/sentientism