Pairing beer and chocolate is one of the major topics of Bean to Barstool. Chocolate can pair beautifully with a wide variety of grown-up beverages, however, and most people probably think of wine for this role first. Estelle Tracy leads wine and chocolate pairing events professionally, but she comes to this not as a stuffy expert, but as a curious observer who has learned along the way, following her senses to new areas of knowledge and expertise without losing the joy of discovery.In this episode, Estelle and I talk about the differences and similarities between pairing craft chocolate with wine and beer, how she got started with chocolate and wine, and what she’s learned along the way.Chocolate makers and other professionals mentioned in this episode include Dick Taylor, Woodblock, Fruition, Kennett Brewing, Violet Sky, Moka Origins, Chimay, Troegs, Sam Adams, Hogarth, and Map.You can preorder Issue 01 of Final Gravity here.You can check out the Final Gravity Patreon and support us here.The music for this episode is by my dear friend, indie folk musician Anna ps. You can find out more about Anna’s music in the show notes or at her website annapsmusic.com, where you can also get in touch to book her to play at your brewery or other establishment.Estelle Tracy is a chocolate sommelier based in the Philadelphia area. A chemist by training, she’s the founder of 37 Chocolates, a chocolate tasting company. Since 2020, she's hosted over 350 virtual tastings to chocolate-lovers on 5 continents. Find out more at 37chocolates.com.Follow Bean to Barstool on social media!InstagramTwitterFacebookPinterestTikTokSign up for host David Nilsen's newsletter to get regular updates!