In this episode of the HR Leaders podcast, I'm joined by Alban Jacquin, Global Chief Diversity & Inclusion Officer at Schneider Electric. He joined us to discuss how to bring DE&I and well-being closer together, having courageous conversations and tackling systemic biases, and measuring progress in company culture beyond the numbers.Alban joined Schneider Electric in 2006 as corporate communication manager. In 2008, he joined the Global Marketing dept. and managed the CEO speaking opportunities. In 2010, he joined the sustainable development dept. and supported the deployment of best-in-class corporate social responsibility policy. In 2014, he moved to the US and became Learners’ experience lead, aiming to make learning fun, intuitive, and customized to support people’s development. He is passionate about simplifying things, making an impact on people’s lives, and sustainable development.? Subscribe to HR Leaders: http://bit.ly/2wFkCEq?️ Listen on your favourite platform: https://art19.com/shows/hr-leaders-podcast? Follow Chris on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chrisraineyhrThanks to Beamery for supporting the show!Download the free report to gain insights into building a "skills-first" organization in the face of new and complex talent challenges, and learn how to prioritize skills, use data and technology, and adopt a new mindset to improve workforce-related decisions, hiring, career development, and overall success.Download for Free: https://bit.ly/Skills-First-OrganizationEpisode highlights:00:00 What is Inclusion and care by design? 03:08 Alban’s mission to improve the link between Inclusion and Well-being 05:16 How empathy map can help understand inclusion and well-being better 08:02 How understanding the ‘wants’ of employees can help your company 16:19 Why it’s important to embrace uncomfortable conversations 27:09 How using ‘teams’ can encourage employee engagement and discussion 28:31 The key to bringing well-being and DEI closer together 35:08 Alban’s advice to the leaders starting on a similar journeyHead over to our website to access the resources mentioned in this episode: www.hrleaders.co/podcastSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.