Welcome to the Social-Engineer Podcast: The SE Etc. Series. This series will be hosted by Chris Hadnagy, CEO of Social-Engineer LLC, and The Innocent Lives Foundation, as well as Social-Engineer.Org and The Institute for Social Engineering. Chris will be joined by his co-host Patrick Laverty as they discuss topics pertaining to the world of Social Engineering. [Jan 30, 2023]   00:00 – Intro 00:28 – Patrick Laverty Intro 00:58 – Intro Links Social-Engineer.com- http://www.social-engineer.com/ Managed Voice Phishing- https://www.social-engineer.com/services/vishing-service/ Managed Email Phishing- https://www.social-engineer.com/services/se-phishing-service/ Adversarial Simulations- https://www.social-engineer.com/services/social-engineering-penetration-test/ Social-Engineer channel on SLACK- https://social-engineering-hq.slack.com/ssb CLUTCH- http://www.pro-rock.com/ org- http://www.innocentlivesfoundation.org/                                                05:38 – "You never know"                                                           06:51 – Todays Topic: The Role of Empathy in SE                                                                07:02 – Empathy: A Definition                                                    11:09 – 3 Kinds of Empathy                                                         11:23 – Cognitive Empathy                                                          12:21 – Emotional Empathy                                                         13:00 – Empathic Concern                                                           15:52 – The Role of Emotional Distance                                                  16:57 – Learning Empathy                                                            17:49 – What the Studies Show                                                 19:56 – Keeping an Open Mind                                                  21:35 – Letting Your Life Experiences Teach You                                                 23:52 – The Social Media Bubble                                                               25:55 – Expand And Listen                                                           30:13 – Applying Empathy to Social Engineering                                                 31:25 – Being Adversarial                                                             32:45 – Don't Be the Bad Guy                                                     38:33 – The Importance of "Why"                                                             42:51 – Using Empathy to Make the Best Choice                                                48:07 – Using Empathy to Make the Hard Choice                                                               49:55 – Practice Makes (Not Quite) Perfect                                                          51:17 – Coming Up Next Month                                                                52:08 – Wrap Up & Outro social-engineer.com innocentlivesfoundation.org Find us online Chris Hadnagy Twitter: @humanhacker LinkedIn: com/in/christopherhadnagy Patrick Laverty Twitter: @plaverty9 LinkedIn: com/in/plaverty9