Today we have special guest Chuck Kerchner of Zorzal Cacao. His cacao farm is unique from the rest as it funds nature conservation through the sale of fine cacao.Chuck, [co-host] Greg D'Alesandre, and Dylan have a wide ranging conversation on all things cacao and chocolate. Highlights include: scaling cacao agroforestry through nature conservation, the future of fine cacao, healthy chocolate business models, direct trade relationships, the Hawaiian cacao industry, cacao bi-products, Dominican Republic cacao, and more! Watch the video version of this podcast on Craft Chocolate TV.• Follow us for more chocolate content @manoachocolate • Learn more about us and try our chocolate here.