Kerry Secker has one of the most successful holistic infant sleep companies in the UK and ever since this podcast started I have been itching to sit her down and find out more about why she went down the care-it-out route when all her peers were putting their kids on naughty steps and leaving babies to settle themselves. We talk about what crying means and why it's not necessarily a bad thing - but also why cry-it-out and controlled crying are very different strategies to how we approach sleep.For more information about Kerry, go to www.careitout.com