In this episode with Dr Kevin Wernli, we discuss the studies he was involved with on persistent low back pain. In particular, how a majority of peoples muscles activation and postures change from rigid and guarded to less fearful as they progress through a treatment journey. He also described the multiple things that he has noticed on a patients journey through a bout of physiotherapy.Do you want to delve further into movement and posture and it’s relationship to low back pain? Dr Kevin Wernli recently did an awesome Masterclass with us on Low back pain, movement and posture… how do they relate? You can watch his whole class now with our 7-day free trial: https://www.physio-network.com/masterclass/low-back-pain-movement-and-posture-how-do-they-relate/If you like the podcast, it would mean the world if you're happy to leave us a rating or a review. It really helps!Links to papers that are discussed by Dr Kevin Wernli -  From protection to non-protection: Mixed methods paper: https://doi.org/10.1002/ejp.2022Movement, Posture, and Low back pain paper: https://doi.org/10.1002/ejp.1631Low back pain facts page on Pain-ed: http://www.pain-ed.com/blog/2020/06/13/ten-low-back-pain-facts-videos/Empowered Beyond Pain Podcast: https://open.spotify.com/show/3ogpeLlDGLRLiHofEWvCjeOur host is Michael Rizk from Physio Network and iMoveU: https://cutt.ly/ojJEMZs