I don't even know where to begin with this one except that I've adored Mary Heffernan (of Five Marys Farms) for YEARS and then... I got a chance to talk with her. The Heffernans run a massive ranch in  where they raise Black Angus cattle, Berkshire hogs, and Navajo-Churro sheep as a family - Mary, Brian, and their four daughters who are also all named Mary!!  Mary self-describes herself as a serial entrepreneur so this episode weaves all over the place - from her first businesses as an elementary-school kid all the way through opening restaurants, moving to a ranch, writing cookbooks, offering entrepreneurship courses and more. We talk about how empowered kids feel when they are a part of the daily caregiving of home and animals. We talk about living in a small space (the six Heffernans lived in 700 sq. feet for seven years), the importance of having a family motto, squeezing in date nights when you have a lot of kids, eating outside, and feeding large crowds. This is a fun one! Learn more about what Five Marys Farms has to offer below and order one of Mary's cookbooks here: Five Marys Family Style: Recipes and Traditions from the Ranch >> https://amzn.to/3N9pJ69 Five Marys Ranch Raised Cookbook: Homegrown Recipes from Our Family to Yours >> https://amzn.to/3TEgflQ https://www.fivemarysfarms.com/ https://mary.today/ https://www.m5entrepreneurs.com/ https://www.ranch.school/