Our guest this time, authentic business coach George Kao (click here to follow him on Instagram and here to check out his YouTube channel) is all about doing marketing differently. Me too, George!

Forget sales funnels and six-figure promises, even forget results. Yeah - really. 

Instead, we chat about,

ditching your agenda
YouTube
why he's quit Instagram Reels
and marketing messages no-one wants to hear (but need to)

George talks about attachment and the Hindu spiritual poem the Bhagavad Gita, click here for some further reading.

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