Clemmie Telford is a mum of 3, a writer and a creative strategist. She started her incredibly popular blog 'Mother of all lists' during her second maternity leave, as an honest account of her experience of motherhood. Clemmie and I chat about the transition from 2 to 3 children, anxiety, therapy and how she manages to stay present. For full show notes go to www.motherkind.co https://motherofalllists.com/