Taking a break from work can look 1,000 different ways: You could learn how to make homemade pasta; you could visit five new countries; you could spend sunup to sundown swinging in a hammock. What constitutes a break should fit your specific context and needs. And in this way, taking a true, you-shaped vacation—for a week, a month, or even longer—dips into org design knowledge and territory. In this episode, Rodney and Aaron reflect on their recent breaks and what they learned, including:

The signs and signals that tell us when it’s time to take a break

Why breaks are important and how they contribute to system-wide resilience

How taking time off in a self-managing system can look and feel different than in a more traditional one

Parsing the key differences between a break, a trip, and a vacation

How to think about and reimagine the OS of your next vacation


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